The Woke Right Is Real It Formed Fast After Oct. 7—It Is An Censorious As The Woke Left, And Douglas Murray Is Its Undisputed Peacock
New Woke, Old Woke, Same Frequency, Same Compulsion To Police Thought And Speech
https://open.substack.com/pub/celiafarber/p/the-woke-right-is-real-it-formed
Celia Farber 2025 Apr 11 Fri
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Clip here, 3:13 minute articulation of the Woke Right.
https://x.com/PF_Jung/status/1910460542952554840
What makes it “woke?”
Core premise that a non elected elite must strongly control the way the lumpenproletariat think and speaks, lest they contaminate the world. Core premise that human beings’ discourse should be controlled, or else bad things can happen. Core premise that there are dangerous rafts of discussion and thought, gateways to “danger.” Bad neighborhoods of thought.
Core premise that people should be “in trouble” for their thoughts and questions, rather than answered. (Douglas Murray assumes the role of very angry daddy, and appears on this broadcast to let Joe Rogan know he is in trouble for his conversations.)
His own show!
Douglas Murray doesn’t give himself pause, or ponder: Who appointed him gatekeeper of intellectual “hygiene?”
Murray actually uses the word “hygiene” in the interview, pleading for it to be applied as a standard in discourse.
How breathtaking.
(Interview linked in this previous piece.)
https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/douglas-murray-clashes-with-dave
Men can be so almost unbelievably easily sold on the idea of their exceptionalness.
I often wonder what it would be like to have that—for a day. To be a man, one like Douglas Murray.
I don’t agree that Murray is a “regal creature.” I think he is popular because he has a strong voice, classic male, high education British gift for contemptuous put-downs, and zingers, is very sure of himself, and checks every darling box, from libertarian to gay to Agnostic to Anti-Muslim. Woke Right.
Because he lacks empathy, he has no features of the artist. That may be why he is so envious of, and enraged by Darryl Cooper, who does.
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Douglas Murray Clashes With Dave Smith On Joe Rogan: Sparks Fly, As Imperial Gatekeeping Disintegrates, And Outsider, Populist Historians Rise To The Fore Of Mass Culture
Sent In To Destroy Darryl Cooper, He Instead Brandishes An Intellectual Elitism That Repels All But The Thoroughly Locked In Alt. Right Israel Defenders, Using Europe's Demise As Cover For Its Agenda
https://open.substack.com/pub/celiafarber/p/douglas-murray-clashes-with-dave
Celia Farber 2025 Apr 11 Fri
substack.com/@lastmohican
“Snobbery? But it’s only a form of despair.”
—Joseph Brodsky
I have, I believe, a good people antenna, and it sent me signals of pure misery on this guy—Douglas Murray, years ago.
I really dislike snobbery, and snobs, and snobbishness.
(Joseph Brodsky for the win, in 8 words.)
When it comes to British (upper class) snobbishness, no other people can compare—it’s sometimes so pathological, it becomes fascinating.
Tweet by Darryl Cooper:
Here, Murray trumpets that history must only be permitted to be stitched by official historians, punches down on Darryl Cooper as being a “would be historian,” though he has never “consumed” any of his work, and berates Rogan for not finding any war he can bring himself to love.
Murray also uses a classic gaslight technique of fumbling with Darryl Cooper’s name. That’s meant to signal: He’s not important enough for me to get his name right.
It really is an epoch-defining clash of civilizations, and Dave Smith, I thought, was outstanding.
Clip here.
Joe Rogan Podcast
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Who’s watched this?! Wow.
Quote Apr 10 2025
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Dave Smith & Douglas Murray Get Into a HEATED Debate Over “Trusting the Experts”
https://x.com/TheChiefNerd/status/1910394384882840021
https://x.com/joeroganhq/status/1910482235972583931
The whole show, below:
Darryl Cooper, (significantly) came from a poor, broken home, single mother, no stability, always uprooted, many many temporary homes. Reading was his refuge, and he read copious numbers of books as a way to survive all the traumas of his childhood.
Such people can see through walls, and are very valuable.
Murray strikes me as an “agent of the Crown,” and pushes on with the agenda and talking points of the still obscure (to most) British Pilgrims Society. I don’t know if he is an official member, but I’d be surprised if he were not.
Owen Benjamin posted something about him on X too vulgar to re-post, but I have captured a few PG snippets:
From there, Benjamin went into his favorite form of bashing, calling people “gay,” in countless ways. Murray is openly gay, libertarian, and close to an atheist. (Agnostic, now.)
I try to stay away from people’s sexual preferences but instead let me say this:
Observe Murray’s whole body, his expressions, his barely contained contempt. When he became all the rage some years ago, I was unable to get past how he could call his book The Madness of Crowds, when that title was taken, in 1852, by Charles Mackay.
He comes from a social class and tradition that actually believes mere peasants can’t study, know, or partake in discussions of history.
Cooper, by contrast, represents in all his work, the stifled voice of the ‘little guy’—and is fascinated by labor movements, and the (totally ignored) history of the working classes in America.
I believe Cooper’s rise shows us that they (Crown/Anaconda) didn't take into account a sudden mass popularity of outsider historians. That a historian could attract millions of listeners, by telling history through a lens where people are depicted as real people. They (Tavistock/Crown) thought they could always control “pop culture,” as in the (Dark) Beatles and all the rest.
I’m upset that people I know ever implored me to read this guy’s book.
Sheesh what a snob. |